Letter to Squid

Aarin posted a long one in the thread essentially calling for my immediate death. Here it is:

[quote]
Your e-mail really forced my hand here, Sky, and I expected some double-play involved in the rash strategy.

But that's ok.

Received as a 'with me or against me' ultimatum to THE-ENTIRE-FUCKING-GAME, I could simply stand aghast at the responses you were inviting.

So where silence = not green

and

"Hay, I'm green" = green...

...

Are you fucking kidding me?

Why in God's name would any semi-intelligent player align themselves in such an obvious clusterfuck, abandoning good sense under the pretense of 'these are the people I can 100% trust because they say so.'

This is a Zaxser-esque screw-up that has totally shot Shu in both legs, and the feet.

Unless that's what you were aiming for. In which case, well done.

Now the list of people who revealed themselves are a pure mix of liars, idiots, and hopeful-loyalists; you're pretty much at square one since I'm sure there's plenty of Shu that didn't take the bait, and any reaction after is just as suspect as firing an immediate "Of course I'm Shu."

If anything it solidifies the opponents, since they'll be able the fuck Shu in the ass based on subsequent relief-reveals and voting habits among people who've networked via this opening.

While CAB and yourself are obvious Day 1 candidates for the town/eunuch, what you've gained is the absolute lack of trust within the 'claimed' Shu faction.

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I'm in one of four factions, likely one of the others, likely yours. I'm sure as hell not getting intimately involved beyond this post. That's the problem with the silence = death mentality, especially when it's open-ended.
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I had the following conversation with him immediately afterwards:

[21:05] Sky_Paladin> For the record, I have a list of names who were gracious enough to tell me they were not Shu. Some even revealed their actual house to me.
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> So, you are in house Wu?
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> Thanks for the heads up~
[21:06] Aarin> crazy strategy man :P
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> It was definately not my preferred course of action >.>
[21:07] Sky_Paladin> My blog starts with "I am going to play a quiet game and not do anything for the first 48 hours." Then I recieved my role. Sigh.
[21:07] Aarin> I'm not getting involved though I'd love to proclaim my Shu allegience, the ambiguity is my protection at this point
[21:07] Aarin> I simply can't risk day 1 faction-reveal
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> Hmm
[21:08] Aarin> even if it's friendly/honest
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> Well we are offering you up as the day 1 instalynch so.
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> If you are Shu it'd be a good time to do something positive.
[21:09] Aarin> oh what grounds? speaking up for my factions health and getting some distance before you guys go capulet?
[21:09] Aarin> you're already a turncoat distaster
[21:09] Sky_Paladin> Because I recieved word five minutes after I sent you the pm that you were not going to respond.
[21:10] Aarin> and that's what I said in the thread.
[21:10] Aarin> I'm still not responding
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> What I was told suggested you were not Shu, so.
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> That is why we offered you up.
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> You're behaviour suggests you are Wu, so.
[21:11] Aarin> bad move ^.^
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> It can happen.
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> If you believe I am Shu, a good idea would be to work with me.
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> A good start would be by voting for CAB.
[21:12] Aarin> I believe you're shu fine, personally
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> But since CAB appears to be the Wu Bodyguard, and I think you are Wu, I don't think you would do that.
[21:12] Aarin> but I don't trust your network for shit
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> Oh, neither do I.
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> That's why no names have been passed around.
[21:13] Sky_Paladin> But I am simply stunned that people would respond to my mail and tell me they are not in Shu because they are (house xyz).
[21:13] Aarin> that's not very good play either :P
[21:13] Aarin> was this what you were hoping for?
[21:13] Aarin> breaking the ice?
[21:14] Aarin> It's a shit way of organizing a faction
[21:14] Aarin> so I personally feel quite troubled
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> It's ok~
[21:14] Aarin> and for good reason
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> Well this is how Suike infiltrated Capulet
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> This is how Squid lasted for so long
[21:15] Aarin> lack of patience is how groups get nuked, imo
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> (sigh, Squid >.>)
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> Time was not on my side :/
[21:15] Aarin> your role might not hit until day 8+ :P
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> I am doing what I can to prevent it.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> If you are concerned, I think the best thing to do would be to say nothing and remain silent.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Including deleting your post if necessary.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Watch and see where people vote.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Try to blend in.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> That is what I would have preferred to have done!
[21:17] Sky_Paladin> Because if you are house shu, the best thing you could do would be to either do nothing or support me. But pouring crap on me is not helping us either.
[21:17] Sky_Paladin> Because of your hostile actions towards a member of Shu, other Shu players won't trust you.
[21:20] Sky_Paladin> Anyway, if CAB didn't post, the Lord was going to post it later.
[21:20] Sky_Paladin> I won't say my action was the best one. However, it is done, you can roll with it, or be left out.
[21:21] Aarin> My role doesn't need much help :P I'm not an avid networker, and my position as everyone's friend/enemy always keeps me alive longer than me shutting up. I already said I wasn't 'continuing my attack' but considering my value, I need to be as ambiguous as possible, including to whatever you're trying to set up.
[21:21] Sky_Paladin> At the moment you are being instalynched at the end of day 1, so....
[21:21] Aarin> As an infiltrator role, you're not going to get much from me other than that
[21:22] Sky_Paladin> Well it's your choice bud. You know I am from Shu. If you don't want to work with me, I can't save you.
[21:22] Aarin> what do you mean by work with you?
[21:22] Aarin> I'm like totally talking~
[21:22] Sky_Paladin> Start by not attacking me in public, and then we'll talk.
[21:23] Aarin> you deserved it?
[21:23] Sky_Paladin> Those are my terms.
[21:23] Aarin> Things should /really/ be on mine
[21:23] Aarin> thus the not backing down
[21:23] Sky_Paladin> But YOU have a role that is useful to the house. I am expendable.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> So I don't have anything that you can take from me.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> OTOH, as far as we know, you are in Wu.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> At least everyone in Shu knows they can trust me.
[21:26] Sky_Paladin> Except you, apparently :3
[21:26] Aarin> I'm a player too ^.^
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> Well, there is one more thing.
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> If you trust me 100% to be Shu, there is no reason why you can't reveal your role to me, since you expect me to die today anyway.
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> If you have a kill role, I can give you a target.
[21:28] Aarin> I'm afraid of thine network, not you :P
[21:28] Sky_Paladin> Your name is already in the network as 'Wu'.
[21:28] Sky_Paladin> We need some proof that you are Shu.
[21:30] Sky_Paladin> I can't help but feel you are sharing this conversation with somebody else.
[21:30] Aarin> playing poker. I've talked to you, squid, and dna so far, all of which have approached me.
[21:32] Sky_Paladin> Well, I am not satisfied with what you've brought to the table. If you delete your post and vote for CAB, we will petition Malice to hit somebody else. But that is how it stands at the moment.
[21:34] Sky_Paladin> I am going to send this conversation to the Shu leadership group.
[21:34] Sky_Paladin> If the situation is different, you will be contacted shortly.
[21:34] Aarin> Shu leadership group. -- That's not helping me change my mind
[21:35] Aarin> Why on earth do you trust anyone?
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> Well, I don't have a good answer for that. The truth is that I don't trust everyone.
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> But everyone should be able to trust me, right?
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> I figure not everyone can be lying to me :3
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> The math wouldn't work out.
[21:39] Aarin> Except for that whole (don't tell you your role because you're going to swap sides)
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> If I played my cards right, I should be dead long before then, right?
[21:39] Aarin> As a calculated risk, you'll probably live
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> It's really embarassing for everybody if I live long enough to swap sides >.>
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> I really don't want that.
[21:41] Sky_Paladin> Guan Yu did not stay with Wei forever, but the description didn't say anything about swapping back. But as it stands I doubt I will live long enough to find out ;)
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> Anyway, let me reiterate: Please delete your post and vote for CAB. We are currently pushing for you to be instalynched. If you do these things, we will change our request.
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> If you are truly Shu, this should be no problem for you.
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> But if you are not, well...probably we will die together. I am sure it will be romantic <3~~
[21:43] Aarin> yeah, I already did that. I've VERY unhappy about the way this got put together though
[21:44] Aarin> the vote will come durning saturday.
[21:44] Sky_Paladin> And I've deleted my response post.
[21:44] Aarin> I need to Be NOT a target for the 100th time
[21:44] Sky_Paladin> OK, I will see how that flies. Of course if you see ten thousand people voting for me, you have to vote for me too.
[21:45] * Aarin rubs forehead
[21:45] Aarin> god I hate/love this game :P
[21:45] Sky_Paladin> Yes it is a mind fuck. Part of me is already thinking 'when I die I can relax o/'
[21:45] Aarin> I'll be more availible this game
[21:46] Aarin> see ya soon, one way or the other
[21:46] Sky_Paladin> RL always gets in the way of fun.
[21:46] Sky_Paladin> Indeed!

After this, Aarin edited his post.

Although I am probably going to die there is no point pouring fuel on the fire.

Regretfully I expect Aarin will know you talked to me now, since he has only talked to you and DNA prior to me.

I won't trust Aarin til I see a vote under CAB from him though. Keep an eye out. If he doesn't do it, you know he's gotta go.

Do we want to switch the instalynch from Aarin to another known hostile (eg DJROC)?

Let me know,

--Sky