I think that is a very good plan since all it takes is one unscrupulous player for all hell to break loose .
I will write more from work---
Sunday, August 31, 2008
Current list of dead-abilities
For record keeping purposes:
* ChaoticAtomBomb - Chooses one night action as a narrative clue
* TheWinkel - Can vote as any dead player for any player
* harlock_jds - Can spite any player (vote-slash, misinformation, or narrative lulz)
* Sky_Paladin - Assistant Mod. ^_^
* marrowmeld - Can give information or misinformation to a living player
SpiritClaw16 - Can give information or misinformation to a living player
(*) Wonder Chicken
* bringerofDoom - haunts players for narrative bits
* Malice-Sama - Can fake kill any player in the game
{X}Sapphire - retains her strategist abilities
* DJROC -
* Squidworth
* thethirdrider - can make a narrative text regarding a player
* Skulkraken - can vote as any dead player for any player
* Midnyt - Can make any player appear as "Huang Gai"
* Kemindul - info/misinfo
* Wave Master
* DNA.Styx - Haunt player in narrative~
* NeoNostalgia
* bscar
(*) Sagi
* Aarin
* Madogu
* Umino - Target any player in the game and I'll give them misinformation; once per thread.
(*) BBC
* uberlegen
* eladnarra
(?) Kage
Spada
TracerBullet
TheBigN
Vampirate
gunsguru
zero_kanipan
* means that they have been invited to the deadblog.
(X) means that they do not wish to join.
* ChaoticAtomBomb - Chooses one night action as a narrative clue
* TheWinkel - Can vote as any dead player for any player
* harlock_jds - Can spite any player (vote-slash, misinformation, or narrative lulz)
* Sky_Paladin - Assistant Mod. ^_^
* marrowmeld - Can give information or misinformation to a living player
SpiritClaw16 - Can give information or misinformation to a living player
(*) Wonder Chicken
* bringerofDoom - haunts players for narrative bits
* Malice-Sama - Can fake kill any player in the game
{X}Sapphire - retains her strategist abilities
* DJROC -
* Squidworth
* thethirdrider - can make a narrative text regarding a player
* Skulkraken - can vote as any dead player for any player
* Midnyt - Can make any player appear as "Huang Gai"
* Kemindul - info/misinfo
* Wave Master
* DNA.Styx - Haunt player in narrative~
* NeoNostalgia
* bscar
(*) Sagi
* Aarin
* Madogu
* Umino - Target any player in the game and I'll give them misinformation; once per thread.
(*) BBC
* uberlegen
* eladnarra
(?) Kage
Spada
TracerBullet
TheBigN
Vampirate
gunsguru
zero_kanipan
* means that they have been invited to the deadblog.
(X) means that they do not wish to join.
Official Dead Blog idea
I have been pondering about the consequences of the fake-kill ability as we start to have more and more dead. Thus, I'm toying around with starting up a mafia_cat sponsored dead blog for the dead to talk to one another, regardless of faction, former win condition, or otherwise, in order to communicate which player is to not be treated as if they were dead. This would also be a way to involve everyone, and to keep those still interested in watching the game involved.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Saturday, August 30, 2008
Squid-talk.
Earlier today~
[15:19] Squidworth: so full of rage :P
[15:20] TheGrasshopper: ttly
[15:20] Squidworth: fucking BoD
[15:20] Squidworth: I hate that guy
[15:20] Squidworth: and Umino's all up on his dick
[15:20] Squidworth: makes me sick
[15:21] TheGrasshopper: Heh, don't take it hard.
[15:21] TheGrasshopper: They don't mean it as personal as you're taking it.
[15:21] TheGrasshopper: Which is why I simply said "don't goad" in there.
[15:21] Squidworth: BoD thinks he's some sort of God at this game
[15:21] Squidworth: him and Link both were all over me when I first started playing this game
[15:21] Squidworth: "You suck blah blah blah"
[15:22] TheGrasshopper: Well, you could take some advice from what they say.
[15:22] TheGrasshopper: I mean, Link fails at this game so spectacularly sometimes that it becomes impressive.
[15:23] TheGrasshopper: And while they are elitist and condescending, you're not exactly giving them nothing to work with~
[15:23] Squidworth: I know I know
[15:23] TheGrasshopper: For instance, you made your statement without really noting that there are three factions within the Unaffiliated that are all working against one another.
[15:23] Squidworth: I mean I'll be the first one to tell you that I made mistakes...
[15:23] Squidworth: in all three games that I played
[15:23] TheGrasshopper: Which would have been dead talk~
[15:24] Squidworth: Link I have no problem with, because he's toned it back a bit
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: Link also stopped caring~
[15:25] Squidworth: But I don't act like I've never made mistakes before
[15:25] Squidworth: this is true
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: You're taking itt too personally.
[15:25] Squidworth: am I?
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: What BoD says doesn't matter~~
[15:25] Squidworth: how am I supposed to take it when I see shit like what he posted in the thread?
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: And he also chastised Umino a little bit in mafia chan for the quote.
[15:25] Squidworth: oh
[15:25] Squidworth: did he?
[15:26] TheGrasshopper:
[15:04] bringerofcats: Umi making up quotes by me :(
[15:26] Squidworth: regardless
[15:26] Squidworth: he still said it
[15:26] TheGrasshopper: [15:08] Umino: Umi making up quotes by me :( <-- you actually said that once
[15:08] Umino: Like, literally.
[15:08] bringerofcats: not exactly as such
[15:08] bringerofcats: but yes
[15:08] Umino: No you said
[15:08] bringerofcats: I said that in reply to Squid talking to you in Game 5
[15:08] Umino: Squidworth has a phd in mafia imo
[15:08] bringerofcats: yeah
[15:27] Squidworth: ah.. ok
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: This came just after "umi making up quotes by me. :(" [15:04] bringerofcats: Squid should be proud though, not many people can survive longer than I can!
[15:04] bringerofcats: only most
[15:27] Squidworth: so Umino is the one blowing this out of proportion
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: No, youare.
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: :V
[15:27] Squidworth: ...
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: Umi is just jokingly chiding someone.
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: You're taking it *way* too personally.
[15:35] TheGrasshopper: I didn't mean to be offensive there.
[15:35] TheGrasshopper: BoD and Umi are both nice guys and don't mean harm.
[15:35] TheGrasshopper: But you did take some impressive leaps of thought that annoyed people already annoyed by Sky's tactics.
[15:36] TheGrasshopper: It is only natural to see a minor backlash that belittles you.
[15:36] Squidworth: hmm
[15:36] Squidworth: I posted a withdraw of my rage
[15:36] Squidworth: sort of
[15:36] Squidworth: I just hate the elistist blahblah that seems to come out after every game
[15:36] Squidworth: all the deadites sit around and bitch
[15:36] Squidworth: myself included
[15:37] Squidworth: I didn't know Eyolo was Cao Cao though, that was new
[15:37] Squidworth: withdrawal*
[15:37] TheGrasshopper: Did you read what BoD posted in thread?
[15:37] TheGrasshopper: It summed up his feelings pretty well.
[15:39] Squidworth: yes
[15:39] Squidworth: that's why I apologized
[15:40] Squidworth: he's right... maybe I do act like I know more than I let on
[15:40] TheGrasshopper: And so we all continue to learn~
Session Close (Squidworth): Sat Aug 30 17:03:27 2008
It seems ironic for Squid to talk about the elitists when he is essentially complaining about himself. I think he was just feeling a little butthurt from having done what he could see as a less-than amazing job. However, I feel that people miss the point when they are playing this game. All too often it is not about doing the perfect thing all of the time. This game should reward effort, and frequently does. For the increased influence one receives by doing things, they also become an increased target.
Anyhow, this was an interesting chat~
[15:19] Squidworth: so full of rage :P
[15:20] TheGrasshopper: ttly
[15:20] Squidworth: fucking BoD
[15:20] Squidworth: I hate that guy
[15:20] Squidworth: and Umino's all up on his dick
[15:20] Squidworth: makes me sick
[15:21] TheGrasshopper: Heh, don't take it hard.
[15:21] TheGrasshopper: They don't mean it as personal as you're taking it.
[15:21] TheGrasshopper: Which is why I simply said "don't goad" in there.
[15:21] Squidworth: BoD thinks he's some sort of God at this game
[15:21] Squidworth: him and Link both were all over me when I first started playing this game
[15:21] Squidworth: "You suck blah blah blah"
[15:22] TheGrasshopper: Well, you could take some advice from what they say.
[15:22] TheGrasshopper: I mean, Link fails at this game so spectacularly sometimes that it becomes impressive.
[15:23] TheGrasshopper: And while they are elitist and condescending, you're not exactly giving them nothing to work with~
[15:23] Squidworth: I know I know
[15:23] TheGrasshopper: For instance, you made your statement without really noting that there are three factions within the Unaffiliated that are all working against one another.
[15:23] Squidworth: I mean I'll be the first one to tell you that I made mistakes...
[15:23] Squidworth: in all three games that I played
[15:23] TheGrasshopper: Which would have been dead talk~
[15:24] Squidworth: Link I have no problem with, because he's toned it back a bit
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: Link also stopped caring~
[15:25] Squidworth: But I don't act like I've never made mistakes before
[15:25] Squidworth: this is true
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: You're taking itt too personally.
[15:25] Squidworth: am I?
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: What BoD says doesn't matter~~
[15:25] Squidworth: how am I supposed to take it when I see shit like what he posted in the thread?
[15:25] TheGrasshopper: And he also chastised Umino a little bit in mafia chan for the quote.
[15:25] Squidworth: oh
[15:25] Squidworth: did he?
[15:26] TheGrasshopper:
[15:04] bringerofcats: Umi making up quotes by me :(
[15:26] Squidworth: regardless
[15:26] Squidworth: he still said it
[15:26] TheGrasshopper: [15:08] Umino:
[15:08] Umino: Like, literally.
[15:08] bringerofcats: not exactly as such
[15:08] bringerofcats: but yes
[15:08] Umino: No you said
[15:08] bringerofcats: I said that in reply to Squid talking to you in Game 5
[15:08] Umino: Squidworth has a phd in mafia imo
[15:08] bringerofcats: yeah
[15:27] Squidworth: ah.. ok
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: This came just after "umi making up quotes by me. :(" [15:04] bringerofcats: Squid should be proud though, not many people can survive longer than I can!
[15:04] bringerofcats: only most
[15:27] Squidworth: so Umino is the one blowing this out of proportion
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: No, youare.
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: :V
[15:27] Squidworth: ...
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: Umi is just jokingly chiding someone.
[15:27] TheGrasshopper: You're taking it *way* too personally.
[15:35] TheGrasshopper: I didn't mean to be offensive there.
[15:35] TheGrasshopper: BoD and Umi are both nice guys and don't mean harm.
[15:35] TheGrasshopper: But you did take some impressive leaps of thought that annoyed people already annoyed by Sky's tactics.
[15:36] TheGrasshopper: It is only natural to see a minor backlash that belittles you.
[15:36] Squidworth: hmm
[15:36] Squidworth: I posted a withdraw of my rage
[15:36] Squidworth: sort of
[15:36] Squidworth: I just hate the elistist blahblah that seems to come out after every game
[15:36] Squidworth: all the deadites sit around and bitch
[15:36] Squidworth: myself included
[15:37] Squidworth: I didn't know Eyolo was Cao Cao though, that was new
[15:37] Squidworth: withdrawal*
[15:37] TheGrasshopper: Did you read what BoD posted in thread?
[15:37] TheGrasshopper: It summed up his feelings pretty well.
[15:39] Squidworth: yes
[15:39] Squidworth: that's why I apologized
[15:40] Squidworth: he's right... maybe I do act like I know more than I let on
[15:40] TheGrasshopper: And so we all continue to learn~
Session Close (Squidworth): Sat Aug 30 17:03:27 2008
It seems ironic for Squid to talk about the elitists when he is essentially complaining about himself. I think he was just feeling a little butthurt from having done what he could see as a less-than amazing job. However, I feel that people miss the point when they are playing this game. All too often it is not about doing the perfect thing all of the time. This game should reward effort, and frequently does. For the increased influence one receives by doing things, they also become an increased target.
Anyhow, this was an interesting chat~
Ohey, it's just us chickens again, Sky!
Do you has viewers that do not get listed as contributors? If not, this is super-happy-fun-time-zone for tossing hypothesizes back and forth~~
Saturday, August 23, 2008
A NEW [S]CHALLENGER[/S] MEMBER HAS ARRIVED!!!
Squidworth and I have sent in our respective "vows" and we should see the results on the next update.
Bottom line? Happy to be here and I'm glad I'm a medic once again (Mafia 5).
~Madogu
Bottom line? Happy to be here and I'm glad I'm a medic once again (Mafia 5).
~Madogu
Alas poor Sapphy we knew ye well!
It is with a heavy heart that I report the death of our strategist, Sapphire. She was the one who found me, out of a group of MILLIONS D:. Together we met up and started the show together, along with Sky. She was a great asset to our team, and will be missed.
On a happier note, I'm getting married!~ \o/ Madogu and I have sent in our vows, so I believe when the day phase ends, we shall have a new member joining us.... hopefully... I won't be the one dying, or else it will be the shortest. marriage. ever. >.<
Now, this plan has been cooked up by Kemindul as a sure fire way to Shu-ck and Awe (see what I did there?) the people.
Skulkraken will vote for Gabriel
major_pain will vote for TheBigN
gunsguru will vote for TracerBullet
Shadowblade Edge will vote for Umino
Midnyt will vote for 1337guard
With 30 minutes until final vote (Monday at 9 EST time):
7:30 Central Time
8:30 Eastern Time
Everyone switches their vote to TTR.
Also, Midnyt was not hit tonight by TTR like we thought he would, and now he's up for lynch. I'm assuming that is the target they will be going for.
We, however, will be going for TTR. He's been lying to me and, since he's been activated as sleeper, he now acts at the Bodyguard for Wei. He MUST be destroyed.
What else... hmm... I think that's it. If anybody has any questions... please let me know.
<3 Squid
On a happier note, I'm getting married!~ \o/ Madogu and I have sent in our vows, so I believe when the day phase ends, we shall have a new member joining us.... hopefully... I won't be the one dying, or else it will be the shortest. marriage. ever. >.<
Now, this plan has been cooked up by Kemindul as a sure fire way to Shu-ck and Awe (see what I did there?) the people.
Skulkraken will vote for Gabriel
major_pain will vote for TheBigN
gunsguru will vote for TracerBullet
Shadowblade Edge will vote for Umino
Midnyt will vote for 1337guard
With 30 minutes until final vote (Monday at 9 EST time):
7:30 Central Time
8:30 Eastern Time
Everyone switches their vote to TTR.
Also, Midnyt was not hit tonight by TTR like we thought he would, and now he's up for lynch. I'm assuming that is the target they will be going for.
We, however, will be going for TTR. He's been lying to me and, since he's been activated as sleeper, he now acts at the Bodyguard for Wei. He MUST be destroyed.
What else... hmm... I think that's it. If anybody has any questions... please let me know.
<3 Squid
Day 4: Ohnoes!
!!!
BK has died! And Sapphy too! ;___;
D: Looks like this confirms that the tailor ability does indeed make the target have the same abilities as the one being copied. Any ideas on who would want to make BK look like Shu?
In any case, we managed to bring down DJROC. Apparently, he was the Wu Paranoid, but we shouldn't be too sure until the end of this phase. I took a hit during the night (from his paranoid ability, apparently) but I'm still in one piece. Orders?
-- Skulkraken
BK has died! And Sapphy too! ;___;
D: Looks like this confirms that the tailor ability does indeed make the target have the same abilities as the one being copied. Any ideas on who would want to make BK look like Shu?
In any case, we managed to bring down DJROC. Apparently, he was the Wu Paranoid, but we shouldn't be too sure until the end of this phase. I took a hit during the night (from his paranoid ability, apparently) but I'm still in one piece. Orders?
-- Skulkraken
Friday, August 22, 2008
Night 3 moves...
My lords! My ladies! My Shu!
Today, we have struck the first blow in a silent war against the Unaffiliated. It is indeed with a heavy heart that I bid farewell to Malice.
Now, for the night activities.
The initial plan was to hit the remaining two guardians tonight, however, a new plan has emerged, with the revelations from today's lynch. It seems there's an Unaffiliated that can perform a day hit that is working with us, so over the next two days, he will eliminate a guardian a day.
In the meantime, our LT and BG are hitting DJROC doubleteam styly. Hopefully, if he's the LT being protected by the medic, we'll kill them both in one fell swoop. We might even get lucky and nail the Lord...
Additionally, I find myself increasingly irritated with TTR. I do not believe for a second that he thinks I'm the Wu Lord like he claims to, and BBC told me he was actively seeking my death during the day, so I did the only logical thing:
I put him onto our wonderfully cracked party member Midnyt. Hopefully, if he comes callin', Mid will put him down and we'll have one less Wei in our hair.
Hmm.. can't think of much else... MP if you read this before we talk, cover Kemi! D:
Great job everyone! We're nearly there!
Squid
Today, we have struck the first blow in a silent war against the Unaffiliated. It is indeed with a heavy heart that I bid farewell to Malice.
Now, for the night activities.
The initial plan was to hit the remaining two guardians tonight, however, a new plan has emerged, with the revelations from today's lynch. It seems there's an Unaffiliated that can perform a day hit that is working with us, so over the next two days, he will eliminate a guardian a day.
In the meantime, our LT and BG are hitting DJROC doubleteam styly. Hopefully, if he's the LT being protected by the medic, we'll kill them both in one fell swoop. We might even get lucky and nail the Lord...
Additionally, I find myself increasingly irritated with TTR. I do not believe for a second that he thinks I'm the Wu Lord like he claims to, and BBC told me he was actively seeking my death during the day, so I did the only logical thing:
I put him onto our wonderfully cracked party member Midnyt. Hopefully, if he comes callin', Mid will put him down and we'll have one less Wei in our hair.
Hmm.. can't think of much else... MP if you read this before we talk, cover Kemi! D:
Great job everyone! We're nearly there!
Squid
The night belongs to...
SHU!
\o/
\o/
Okay, we've successfully taken down the Wu Bodyguard (for sure, this time!). We also managed to take out one of the Guardians...albeit at the cost of one of the Unaffiliated (poor Malice...). For this night phase, we are targeting the two remaining Guardians, right?
More lulz~
[Aarin] bluecat, the order in thine house is sort of going to shit
[Skulkraken] It's "going to shit" for pretty much everyone. The game is pretty much total chaos right now. :p
[Skulkraken] At least, it seems that way to me.
[Aarin] heh. but more for some than others. you look at the grays and greens and they're smug. Red is currently on the block, but blur is like 40% alligned with shu.
[Aarin] I mean the rest of us smirk a bit, but it's not like it's too late
[Skulkraken] It's still anyone's game at this point.
[Aarin] correct
[Skulkraken] o/
[Aarin] just don't drop your hat to any other factions, and don't let your leaders talk you into it.
[Aarin] day 3 is WAY to early for Wei disbanding
[Aarin] omg 8/11, we're dead
[Skulkraken] lol
[Aarin] I don't know why they're in panic-mode
[Skulkraken] *shrugs*
[Skulkraken] I don't know either. :p
[Aarin] well I step up enough to affirm that if you're not pro-green I don't care what you are. If you are, you know how to vote, but if you're not.
[Skulkraken] Thanks for the vote of confidence, Aarin. o/
[Skulkraken] ~~
[Aarin] XD
[Aarin] I have 75% idea what you are :P
[Skulkraken] \o/
----
Lol. I don't know for sure if he seriously thinks I'm Wei, but if so: TTR and BBC aren't the only ones getting our roles wrong. :p
Skulkraken~
Thursday, August 21, 2008
Plans are made to be changed...
So... I've made arrangements for BoD to die today... yes, during the DAY... it's both JOYFUL and TRIUMPHANT! D:
So, who can we throw under the bus to get people to stop voting for me ?
I give you... the Wu Bodyguard (i.e. WonderChicken) However, TTR currently thinks I'm Wu, so if I say "lolbodyguard" he'll be on me like a fat kid on cake.
So, I ask you, brethren, who here is willing to hop on yon hand grenade so as to blow the BG to tiny bits, in thy mercy? Whoever feels like being the lucky bastard to suggest that the Wu Bodyguard bites it, send me a PM or respond in here.
kthx.
Squid <3
So, who can we throw under the bus to get people to stop voting for me ?
I give you... the Wu Bodyguard (i.e. WonderChicken) However, TTR currently thinks I'm Wu, so if I say "lolbodyguard" he'll be on me like a fat kid on cake.
So, I ask you, brethren, who here is willing to hop on yon hand grenade so as to blow the BG to tiny bits, in thy mercy? Whoever feels like being the lucky bastard to suggest that the Wu Bodyguard bites it, send me a PM or respond in here.
kthx.
Squid <3
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
The lulz just keep comin'~
This lovely post is a fine example that all you people are doing an awesome job! It seems TTR went a'seekin' the Wu Lord, and (thanks to Jake) damn if he didn't find him... read on for more...
Wei is falling. The bodyguard is gone and one by one we lose our members. Our faction leader will not last long, I think. I propose a coup de tat, or several in fact.
(No kidding, right?)
I wish to minimize blood shed and player loss. I want to save Wei by destroying it. This will also spite Shu who has been obnoxious and outright lied to me. I will have vengeance...
(lolShucat sent him a message... needless to say, it went over like a wet fart in church)
What I want to do is simple. I wish to find the Wei faction leader, be named successor, have them killed. When I ascend I will name you successor to Wei and then I can be killed, either lynch or assassination. You will then be able to move all Wei players to Wu. This way most Wei players will be saved at the cost of losing their faction. A fair trade I think. You will have overwhelming numbers and the unaffiliated not tied to Wu should flock to the stronger faction.
(Tempting... I was already planning on doing this anyway.. but probably just going to kill the Wei Lord and have done)
That hit your bodyguard absorbed? Yeah, that was me. I was lied to and told you were Shu (if you are Shu, and are now laughing at me, I will be very upset. Very).
(insert malicious peals of laughter here)
I am a sleeper for Wei that has awakened. We are, as THG put it, for when the shitty shitiness happens and are meant to swing the game and save our faction. Kill power is far from all I can do, as I would not be so reckless to approach you like this if I did not feel mostly secure. However, I cannot rally and I cannot lead. I follow and do. I don't plan and I cannot network. My win condition is now neigh impossible, so I thought I might strike a deal.
No one in Wei knows of this, and I would like to keep as few from knowing this as possible. Only you, if you would be so inclined. Turn all of Wu to finding Wei, turn them to killing Shu and this should be quick. I am the obvious choice for successor with my powers. Once the Head is found I shall cut it off and hand it to you.
(he also doesn't understand that once you become faction leader, you lose your powers)
As a favor, if Aarin is not part of your faction (tell me one way or the other) I would like him dead. I was told he was Wu, by him and others, only to be told that he is Shu. I don't know which is true but I think that latter might be. If so, kill him for me to seal this deal. I can do it myself, but I might have other targets before night 3. I was also told you were Shu, but evidence says otherwise. I hope I am right, but I felt the gamble would pay off nicely.
(better keep BBC on Aarin)
Since I have been ridiculously honest here, I think you should feel you are able to trust me. I would like you to turn your resources to help me finding more Wei that I can contact. Consider them future subordinates and hand them over to me first. Whether things turn around for Wei or not I will fulfill this if you agree to it. Consider it a contract; a dead Shu tonight, or in lynch backed by you today, will seal the deal for me. (Aarin, if he is Shu. If he dies and is in fact Wu I will not be pleased) Tell me your targets name before the start of day 4.
Not to make this sound a threat, merely to inform you, I have made arrangements should I die for some reason. Let me know your decision soon.
Ok, game plan fellers. BoD was the Wu Traitor but is now one of the Guardians. We need to use that to our advantage. If we can somehow convince the populace to vote for BoD, we can guarantee someone's help with this...
Wei is falling. The bodyguard is gone and one by one we lose our members. Our faction leader will not last long, I think. I propose a coup de tat, or several in fact.
(No kidding, right?)
I wish to minimize blood shed and player loss. I want to save Wei by destroying it. This will also spite Shu who has been obnoxious and outright lied to me. I will have vengeance...
(lolShucat sent him a message... needless to say, it went over like a wet fart in church)
What I want to do is simple. I wish to find the Wei faction leader, be named successor, have them killed. When I ascend I will name you successor to Wei and then I can be killed, either lynch or assassination. You will then be able to move all Wei players to Wu. This way most Wei players will be saved at the cost of losing their faction. A fair trade I think. You will have overwhelming numbers and the unaffiliated not tied to Wu should flock to the stronger faction.
(Tempting... I was already planning on doing this anyway.. but probably just going to kill the Wei Lord and have done)
That hit your bodyguard absorbed? Yeah, that was me. I was lied to and told you were Shu (if you are Shu, and are now laughing at me, I will be very upset. Very).
(insert malicious peals of laughter here)
I am a sleeper for Wei that has awakened. We are, as THG put it, for when the shitty shitiness happens and are meant to swing the game and save our faction. Kill power is far from all I can do, as I would not be so reckless to approach you like this if I did not feel mostly secure. However, I cannot rally and I cannot lead. I follow and do. I don't plan and I cannot network. My win condition is now neigh impossible, so I thought I might strike a deal.
No one in Wei knows of this, and I would like to keep as few from knowing this as possible. Only you, if you would be so inclined. Turn all of Wu to finding Wei, turn them to killing Shu and this should be quick. I am the obvious choice for successor with my powers. Once the Head is found I shall cut it off and hand it to you.
(he also doesn't understand that once you become faction leader, you lose your powers)
As a favor, if Aarin is not part of your faction (tell me one way or the other) I would like him dead. I was told he was Wu, by him and others, only to be told that he is Shu. I don't know which is true but I think that latter might be. If so, kill him for me to seal this deal. I can do it myself, but I might have other targets before night 3. I was also told you were Shu, but evidence says otherwise. I hope I am right, but I felt the gamble would pay off nicely.
(better keep BBC on Aarin)
Since I have been ridiculously honest here, I think you should feel you are able to trust me. I would like you to turn your resources to help me finding more Wei that I can contact. Consider them future subordinates and hand them over to me first. Whether things turn around for Wei or not I will fulfill this if you agree to it. Consider it a contract; a dead Shu tonight, or in lynch backed by you today, will seal the deal for me. (Aarin, if he is Shu. If he dies and is in fact Wu I will not be pleased) Tell me your targets name before the start of day 4.
Not to make this sound a threat, merely to inform you, I have made arrangements should I die for some reason. Let me know your decision soon.
Ok, game plan fellers. BoD was the Wu Traitor but is now one of the Guardians. We need to use that to our advantage. If we can somehow convince the populace to vote for BoD, we can guarantee someone's help with this...
Night 2 Madness/Day 3 plans...
Fellow Shu! Night three was probably much more exciting than you can possibly imagine. Our great faction had four hits that were supposed to happen; however, only the last one was actually completed (good job Kemi!). Now, for an explanation of what happened...
Wave Master: Not hit. The "Mercenary Cat" apparently backed down...
DJROC: I'm willing to bet this hit went through, but he was guarded by the Veteran... this fucker is dangerous. He knows I'm Shu, and probably knows I'm the Lord.
l33tguard: Don't know about this one yet... waiting for Aarin to drag ass in and explain himself...
spiritclaw: Kemi nailed him last minute... ironically, his was the only one to work.
Wave Master: Not hit. The "Mercenary Cat" apparently backed down...
DJROC: I'm willing to bet this hit went through, but he was guarded by the Veteran... this fucker is dangerous. He knows I'm Shu, and probably knows I'm the Lord.
l33tguard: Don't know about this one yet... waiting for Aarin to drag ass in and explain himself...
spiritclaw: Kemi nailed him last minute... ironically, his was the only one to work.
Day 3: Status Report
Okay, it looks like *none* of our hits went through during the last night phase. On top of that, I took a hit (which was covered, much thanks to Gunsguru). To this I say: WTF?!?!
In terms of good news, Marrow's true identity has been revealed: we lynched the Wei General, and the Wu General appears to have died during the night.
-Skulkraken
In terms of good news, Marrow's true identity has been revealed: we lynched the Wei General, and the Wu General appears to have died during the night.
-Skulkraken
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
Shu > All
Ok all. I'm sure some of you are like, "ZOMG U KILLED A SHU!"
Firstly, Jake said that he was tailored by the Wu. I'm expecting to see a very different tally during the next day cycle.
Don't get me wrong. I was like "What the deuce?!" myself, but then it dawned on me that there's no reason why Marrow would have been so stubborn as to not reveal himself to us if he were Shu.
Something else fun that came from this is the following:
[QUOTE]I meant what I said in my last PM. Unfortunately I picked the wrong side.
Last night I was approached by BK. She wanted to know my role and faction. I basically told her I was Wei. I also told her I didn't know any other Wei. She told me she did and would put them in contact with me. This morning Marrow comes calling claiming to be Wei and laided out his case against you. Basically it was the same thing he listed in the thread. I agreed and voted for you to be lynched based on all this info. Obviously I was wrong as Marrow is now a dead and exposed Shu. I am now an exposed Wei known to Shu. That means I have a limited time to live.
I dont know who or what you are. All I know is that you are not Shu. At this point that is good enough for me. I might as well try and put my skills to use before I die. I have a night skill but I need some reassurance that I am not wasting it as it could potentially cost me my life. This is acceptable if it for the greater good of my faction. Hopefullly you are in my faction and I will be able to help you.
At this point I am certain of one thing. BK needs to go. She claimed to be unaffiliated when she approached me, but is most likely Shu.
Death to Shu!
Later
BBC
-And if you are Shu you guys are really sneaky.
[/QUOTE]
That's right kids! BBC is none other than the Wei LT.
So, here's where things sit for the night:
Skulk (covered by Gunsguru) hit ---> DJROC
Kemi ---> BBC
Now, I was contacted as "Shucat" by "Mercenarycat"... he said he would hit a target of my choosing to prove his loyalty... so I put him on Wave Master. I have no idea if Wave Master is anything at all, but he's been the most pronounced anti-Shu, so unfortunately, it comes back to the vocal ones.
If anyone has any other suggestions or ideas, let me hear them on here, or PM.
Happy hunting!
Squid
Firstly, Jake said that he was tailored by the Wu. I'm expecting to see a very different tally during the next day cycle.
Don't get me wrong. I was like "What the deuce?!" myself, but then it dawned on me that there's no reason why Marrow would have been so stubborn as to not reveal himself to us if he were Shu.
Something else fun that came from this is the following:
[QUOTE]I meant what I said in my last PM. Unfortunately I picked the wrong side.
Last night I was approached by BK. She wanted to know my role and faction. I basically told her I was Wei. I also told her I didn't know any other Wei. She told me she did and would put them in contact with me. This morning Marrow comes calling claiming to be Wei and laided out his case against you. Basically it was the same thing he listed in the thread. I agreed and voted for you to be lynched based on all this info. Obviously I was wrong as Marrow is now a dead and exposed Shu. I am now an exposed Wei known to Shu. That means I have a limited time to live.
I dont know who or what you are. All I know is that you are not Shu. At this point that is good enough for me. I might as well try and put my skills to use before I die. I have a night skill but I need some reassurance that I am not wasting it as it could potentially cost me my life. This is acceptable if it for the greater good of my faction. Hopefullly you are in my faction and I will be able to help you.
At this point I am certain of one thing. BK needs to go. She claimed to be unaffiliated when she approached me, but is most likely Shu.
Death to Shu!
Later
BBC
-And if you are Shu you guys are really sneaky.
[/QUOTE]That's right kids! BBC is none other than the Wei LT.
So, here's where things sit for the night:
Skulk (covered by Gunsguru) hit ---> DJROC
Kemi ---> BBC
Now, I was contacted as "Shucat" by "Mercenarycat"... he said he would hit a target of my choosing to prove his loyalty... so I put him on Wave Master. I have no idea if Wave Master is anything at all, but he's been the most pronounced anti-Shu, so unfortunately, it comes back to the vocal ones.
If anyone has any other suggestions or ideas, let me hear them on here, or PM.
Happy hunting!
Squid
Day 2 Lynch Results
Anyone else find the number of people in each faction a bit odd?
Wei - 9
Wu - 10
Shu - 11
Unless someone from Wei already managed to defect to our side, it seems most likely that Marrow was a Wei being masqueraded as a Shu. I suggest waiting for the night phase to end, so that we can know for sure what's up with that.
Ideas on night actions tonight?
Wei - 9
Wu - 10
Shu - 11
Unless someone from Wei already managed to defect to our side, it seems most likely that Marrow was a Wei being masqueraded as a Shu. I suggest waiting for the night phase to end, so that we can know for sure what's up with that.
Ideas on night actions tonight?
Monday, August 18, 2008
Concerns...
The official Shu time is now 2:45am...
...
It's hard being in charge ^^;
Ok, I just learned from Jake that the Wu tailor worked his magic on Marrow, meaning our check may have not been before it happened. That being said, it might be a little hasty to lynch him now...
Thoughts?
...
It's hard being in charge ^^;
Ok, I just learned from Jake that the Wu tailor worked his magic on Marrow, meaning our check may have not been before it happened. That being said, it might be a little hasty to lynch him now...
Thoughts?
It's Lynchin' Time!
Ok folks! First things first...
The "Shucat" was my creation. I couldn't figure out how to properly explain to the masses what I wanted without unwittingly throwing my name out there for the lynch mob, so I thought a sockpuppet would be appropo. However, now we have a bunch of boobery on the forum from the Johnny-come-lately's. -.- Buncha yahoos.
Now, on to Marrowmeld. I had Madogu check him and found that he is not Shu. I also received a clue from my promotion that Wei are on the ropes, and that perhaps we should take a fresh look at how we're playing our game (i.e. perhaps focus on taking down the two guardians.) However, this is going to take some work, being that we're on friendly terms with both Uber and Spada. Lu Bu is with us, as well as several other affiliated.
This is all speculation, but open for discussion... For now, we vote to lynch Marrowmeld. Depending on that outcome, we will tweak our battle plan.
Also, I received a message as "Shucat" from "MercenaryCat" who claims to be an unaffiliated with two expendable kills. He claims he will kill whichever target we choose as proof of his loyalty. Having proved this, he will join our faction, upon which time he will gain unlimited kill power. This would indeed be useful, however, he wants my name. I asked him to hit Wave Master. The night is a long way off however, so if someone has a better target I'm all ears.
That's all for now. Lynch Marrowmeld. That is all.
Squid
The "Shucat" was my creation. I couldn't figure out how to properly explain to the masses what I wanted without unwittingly throwing my name out there for the lynch mob, so I thought a sockpuppet would be appropo. However, now we have a bunch of boobery on the forum from the Johnny-come-lately's. -.- Buncha yahoos.
Now, on to Marrowmeld. I had Madogu check him and found that he is not Shu. I also received a clue from my promotion that Wei are on the ropes, and that perhaps we should take a fresh look at how we're playing our game (i.e. perhaps focus on taking down the two guardians.) However, this is going to take some work, being that we're on friendly terms with both Uber and Spada. Lu Bu is with us, as well as several other affiliated.
This is all speculation, but open for discussion... For now, we vote to lynch Marrowmeld. Depending on that outcome, we will tweak our battle plan.
Also, I received a message as "Shucat" from "MercenaryCat" who claims to be an unaffiliated with two expendable kills. He claims he will kill whichever target we choose as proof of his loyalty. Having proved this, he will join our faction, upon which time he will gain unlimited kill power. This would indeed be useful, however, he wants my name. I asked him to hit Wave Master. The night is a long way off however, so if someone has a better target I'm all ears.
That's all for now. Lynch Marrowmeld. That is all.
Squid
Spreadsheet Is Up
I've made a preliminary spreadsheet in GoogleDocs using the list posted earlier and the information given in the official tallies.
It's very rough around the edges, but I'd like to encourage you all to help clean it up and to keep it up to date. There are a few columns: Name, Faction, Rank, Character Name, Status, and Notes. Please keep in mind that not everyone that has claimed a faction is telling the truth. So if you see someone listed as Shu and they have not been verified in one way or another (use Notes to mention this please), be very cautious with the information you give them. The things contained in this spreadsheet are very fluid and can/may change.
To access it, make sure you're logged into google as Shucats, and then go to Documents. It's the only one there, titled, "ShuCats Official Spreadsheet".
Sunday, August 17, 2008
Day 2: It Begins...
Okay, it looks like CAB was the Wu Medic, not the Wu Bodyguard. This means that the real bodyguard is still out there, and will need to be dealt with.
Of more immediate concern, though, is the fact that the Wei have lost both their bodyguard and their successor. If we can hit or lynch their leader before a new successor is chosen, their faction will be disbanded and we will be able to pick up several new members. Ideas on how to make this happen?
On the note about the spreadsheet, go ahead and make one, but keep it as private as possible. We don't want that much info getting out of hand.
Of more immediate concern, though, is the fact that the Wei have lost both their bodyguard and their successor. If we can hit or lynch their leader before a new successor is chosen, their faction will be disbanded and we will be able to pick up several new members. Ideas on how to make this happen?
On the note about the spreadsheet, go ahead and make one, but keep it as private as possible. We don't want that much info getting out of hand.
RIP Sky. Also, a verification:
We'll miss you, Sky. Thanks for what you've done. ;_;
I've checked Gunsguru today. He IS Shu. Should we be making some kind of spreadsheet with this information?
Black Kitty
My conversations with her reveal that she knows a lot of players and their houses, but not so many roles. She does have somebody claiming to be a lord.
If I die, please remain in contact with her and do not pressure her to make kills. Do not threaten her or Daio Chan or she will come after us instead :/
I think Uber is playing with Wu, and Spada and Malice Shu.
I am sure I am dead and I am so nervous, so...I'll keep it short and sweet.
Good luck everyone.
If I die, please remain in contact with her and do not pressure her to make kills. Do not threaten her or Daio Chan or she will come after us instead :/
I think Uber is playing with Wu, and Spada and Malice Shu.
I am sure I am dead and I am so nervous, so...I'll keep it short and sweet.
Good luck everyone.
Latest list
Latest list - major changes are in bold.
1. Sagi - No response.
2. Sky_Paladin - Shu Relative of the Emperor.
3. Kemindul - Shu (Liuetenant)
4. SpadaDellaSelva - Cousin.
5. Sapphire - Shu Detective.
6. DNA.Styx - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified).
7. major_pain - Claims Veteran (unverified) AFK until Tuesday
8. thethirdrider - Unknown, friendly response, probably not Shu
9. Gasp! Its Jake - Wei Relative of the Emperor.
10. Eyolo - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified), possibly Diao Chan
11. Black Kitty - Lu Bu
12. Aarin - Schitzophrenic13. Skulkraken - Shu (unverified) head bodyguard.
14. Shadowblade Edge - Shu (General).
15. 1337guard - Did not respond. Responded to Black Kitty with "If you want to catch the tiger cubs you have to enter the tigers cave", a quote from Bao Chan, who was alive but did not participate in the war at this time period.
16. BringerofDoom - Wu Traitor. Allegedly can join Shu if we give him our lord name.
17. Gabriel - Did not respond.
18. NeoNostalgia - Did not respond.
19. bscar - Wei.
20. Vampirate - Did not respond.
21. Madogu Abuser - Widow (unverified). Counts as detective until joining a faction, then becomes medic.
22. Umino - Did not respond.
23. uberlegen - Emperor.
24. SpiritClaw16 - Did not respond.
25. TracerBullet - Did not respond.
26. Malice-Sama - Eunuch.
28. Midnyt - Shu (unverified), claims paranoid.
29. Sarck - Claims to not have a role. Possibly Shu sleeper.
31. BBC - Did not respond.
32. harlock_jds - Hostile to Shu.
33. Squidworth - Shu Lord.
34. TheBigN - Did not respond.
35. Kage - Did not respond. Clues in Black Kitty's role suggest Kage may be Daio Chan.
36. DJROC - Wei.
37. zero_kanipan - No response.
38. Wonder Chicken - Neutral response.
39. Wave Master - No response.
40. gunsguru - Claims to be Shu Medic.
41. eladnarra - No response.
42. Marrowmeld - claims Shu.
Shu claimants:
Sky (traitor)
Kemindul (Lieutenant)
Sapphire (Strategist)
Skulkraken (Bodyguard)
Shadowblade Edge (General)
Midnyt (Paranoid)
Squidworth (lord)
Gunsguru (Medic)
Marrowmeld (???)
Major_Pain (Veteran)
Total of 10 claimants including me out of 11 public roles.
There are 42 players, 11 from each faction including 9 Unaffiliated.
I am not listed under Shu unless I am the sleeper.
Subsequently we can expect at least one more Shu to claimant.
MISSING:
1 of 1 Sleeper
2 of 2 Townies
KNOWN AFK PLAYERS
Eyolo is moving house, Umino is out of the country.
NIGHT ACTIONS
We have the bodyguard hitting Harlock and the medic covering the bodyguard. Robod-cat told us that Harlock was hitting me. Skulkraken might intercept this attack before hand, but regardless, we want to take down anybody else who has kill power.
I also asked Kemindul to make a hit on Harlock, in case Harlock has medic protection/two night lives.
Kemindul also claims he has an unaffiliated player with kill power who may make hits on his request. He has asked this player to hit Wave Master.
It is retarded if our opponents do not kill me tonight. So partly the reason we dont have the medic on me is because it is a waste, and the other reason is because if Robod-cat set us up the bomb with Harlock and gave us the Wu paranoid, we need the medic on our bodyguard.
We have our detective verifying our medic, and the widow verifying Marrowmeld.
We are still missing both townies!
1. Sagi - No response.
2. Sky_Paladin - Shu Relative of the Emperor.
3. Kemindul - Shu (Liuetenant)
4. SpadaDellaSelva - Cousin.
5. Sapphire - Shu Detective.
6. DNA.Styx - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified).
7. major_pain - Claims Veteran (unverified) AFK until Tuesday
8. thethirdrider - Unknown, friendly response, probably not Shu
9. Gasp! Its Jake - Wei Relative of the Emperor.
10. Eyolo - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified), possibly Diao Chan
11. Black Kitty - Lu Bu
12. Aarin - Schitzophrenic13. Skulkraken - Shu (unverified) head bodyguard.
14. Shadowblade Edge - Shu (General).
15. 1337guard - Did not respond. Responded to Black Kitty with "If you want to catch the tiger cubs you have to enter the tigers cave", a quote from Bao Chan, who was alive but did not participate in the war at this time period.
16. BringerofDoom - Wu Traitor. Allegedly can join Shu if we give him our lord name.
17. Gabriel - Did not respond.
18. NeoNostalgia - Did not respond.
19. bscar - Wei.
20. Vampirate - Did not respond.
21. Madogu Abuser - Widow (unverified). Counts as detective until joining a faction, then becomes medic.
22. Umino - Did not respond.
23. uberlegen - Emperor.
24. SpiritClaw16 - Did not respond.
25. TracerBullet - Did not respond.
26. Malice-Sama - Eunuch.
28. Midnyt - Shu (unverified), claims paranoid.
29. Sarck - Claims to not have a role. Possibly Shu sleeper.
31. BBC - Did not respond.
32. harlock_jds - Hostile to Shu.
33. Squidworth - Shu Lord.
34. TheBigN - Did not respond.
35. Kage - Did not respond. Clues in Black Kitty's role suggest Kage may be Daio Chan.
36. DJROC - Wei.
37. zero_kanipan - No response.
38. Wonder Chicken - Neutral response.
39. Wave Master - No response.
40. gunsguru - Claims to be Shu Medic.
41. eladnarra - No response.
42. Marrowmeld - claims Shu.
Shu claimants:
Sky (traitor)
Kemindul (Lieutenant)
Sapphire (Strategist)
Skulkraken (Bodyguard)
Shadowblade Edge (General)
Midnyt (Paranoid)
Squidworth (lord)
Gunsguru (Medic)
Marrowmeld (???)
Major_Pain (Veteran)
Total of 10 claimants including me out of 11 public roles.
There are 42 players, 11 from each faction including 9 Unaffiliated.
I am not listed under Shu unless I am the sleeper.
Subsequently we can expect at least one more Shu to claimant.
MISSING:
1 of 1 Sleeper
2 of 2 Townies
KNOWN AFK PLAYERS
Eyolo is moving house, Umino is out of the country.
NIGHT ACTIONS
We have the bodyguard hitting Harlock and the medic covering the bodyguard. Robod-cat told us that Harlock was hitting me. Skulkraken might intercept this attack before hand, but regardless, we want to take down anybody else who has kill power.
I also asked Kemindul to make a hit on Harlock, in case Harlock has medic protection/two night lives.
Kemindul also claims he has an unaffiliated player with kill power who may make hits on his request. He has asked this player to hit Wave Master.
It is retarded if our opponents do not kill me tonight. So partly the reason we dont have the medic on me is because it is a waste, and the other reason is because if Robod-cat set us up the bomb with Harlock and gave us the Wu paranoid, we need the medic on our bodyguard.
We have our detective verifying our medic, and the widow verifying Marrowmeld.
We are still missing both townies!
Damage control~
Ok - BK was more specific.
She said that she clicked on my blogger profile and all of the blogs I have were there including the people who signed up - such as your names. But she checked my blogs last night, and there were no names, and she checked again this morning and the names were there so there are really good odds nobody has happened to check my profile just at the right time >.>
However the fact that she bothered to tell me about this rather than letting me quietly fuck up our faction lets me know she is somebody to be trusted.
I'm so sorry guys. This was such a stupid mistake.
She said that she clicked on my blogger profile and all of the blogs I have were there including the people who signed up - such as your names. But she checked my blogs last night, and there were no names, and she checked again this morning and the names were there so there are really good odds nobody has happened to check my profile just at the right time >.>
However the fact that she bothered to tell me about this rather than letting me quietly fuck up our faction lets me know she is somebody to be trusted.
I'm so sorry guys. This was such a stupid mistake.
What happened
I fucked up.
I didn't realise that if you are signed up to this blog, even though people can't access it without permission, your display name is visible.
I only found out about it because Black Kitty (who reads my personal blog) happened to be viewing my profile, found this blog, and saw all the display names and told me about it just now.
It's good odds that since all of you were added in the last twelve hours and BK often checks up on me that she is the first person to have learned this but if we see all of you die in the next few days then it is completely my fault.
I screwed up big time. I'm so sorry.
I didn't realise that if you are signed up to this blog, even though people can't access it without permission, your display name is visible.
I only found out about it because Black Kitty (who reads my personal blog) happened to be viewing my profile, found this blog, and saw all the display names and told me about it just now.
It's good odds that since all of you were added in the last twelve hours and BK often checks up on me that she is the first person to have learned this but if we see all of you die in the next few days then it is completely my fault.
I screwed up big time. I'm so sorry.
Kemi Test Test~
Heyo, I guess I'm admin. also now? Coolio.
Yeah, I'm Wei Yan, the awesomest barbarian, and Lt. of the Shu army.
Hmm...what needs to be said here...oh yeah!
I get 3 night kills...that's it. And also, if none of us die, we need to kill 19 other people to win. (I believe)
So...My intentions are to save my hits for the dangerous targets.
- Wu Lt. (kill role)
- Wei Lt. (kill role)
- Wu bodyguard (if not truly dead)
- Wei bodyguard (kill role)
This is what I believe. Any other target seems unappealing to me.
Also, I must inform you Shu people, so that you can keep it in mind, that I have one kill already reserved for another player for Night 5. Who? I can't tell you. Why? I can't tell you that either...I sorta explained to Sky, but for now, I'm bound by my honor to keep my lips sealed till the sun rises on the 5th day.
Anything else? If I think of something I'll let you know. And if you guys find any of those 4 roles, let me know and I'll hit them straight away.
K, laters~
Yeah, I'm Wei Yan, the awesomest barbarian, and Lt. of the Shu army.
Hmm...what needs to be said here...oh yeah!
I get 3 night kills...that's it. And also, if none of us die, we need to kill 19 other people to win. (I believe)
So...My intentions are to save my hits for the dangerous targets.
- Wu Lt. (kill role)
- Wei Lt. (kill role)
- Wu bodyguard (if not truly dead)
- Wei bodyguard (kill role)
This is what I believe. Any other target seems unappealing to me.
Also, I must inform you Shu people, so that you can keep it in mind, that I have one kill already reserved for another player for Night 5. Who? I can't tell you. Why? I can't tell you that either...I sorta explained to Sky, but for now, I'm bound by my honor to keep my lips sealed till the sun rises on the 5th day.
Anything else? If I think of something I'll let you know. And if you guys find any of those 4 roles, let me know and I'll hit them straight away.
K, laters~
Stay focused~
While we are off to a good start, it can change real quick. Please do not get overconfident and cocky. I am painting a big bullseye on my ass to draw fire away from the rest of you, please don't blow it all by getting yourself killed just yet~
I won't really believe we got the Wu bodyguard until the next day phase.
I won't really believe we got the Wu bodyguard until the next day phase.
Situation with CAB, Robod-cat and traitors and voting
First of all. I am not sure that CAB was the bodyguard. I expect that this will be revealed at the end of the night phase.
The reason for this is because I used my masquerade ability to have CAB _appear_ as the Wu Bodyguard...and I think he will continue to 'appear' this way until I use my ability again or die. However, there is no way for Wu to know this, which means anybody who has claimed to be their bodyguard prior to this is in hot water, and anybody who tries to claim tonight will be too frightened to.
We will know for sure tomorrow lynch phase.
Robod-cat asked me how I knew that CAB was the bodyguard. The way he posed this makes me think that HE is actually the true Wu bodyguard and not a traitor after all. He wants to know our faction leader so I think we should not give it to him. If we eliminate the enemy lords, he will join us anyway.
Did Robod-cat give us correct information about Harlock or did he sell us a bus? If Skulkraken takes a hit or Harlock comes up to be the paranoid, then we kill Robod-cat. Fast.
If I die tonight (and I should), somebody needs to stay in contact with Robod-cat - that person is Squid, who already has contact. To verify Robod-cat, ask for his role name so that our townies can do a role check on him.
I have been talking with Black Kitty and she claims that she knows the Wei traitor. This makes me believe...there is actually a Shu traitor too. And we should subsequently stop adding people to this blog even if they are verified. The more we add, the greater chance we accidentally pick up the traitor. It may already be too late.
If you are the traitor and are reading this, don't worry. Our plan is to wipe out the enemy faction leaders. Once we identify the enemy faction leader, you 'betray' to that house...just before we hit the leader and kill them. You will then be able to, along with the rest of that house, rejoin Shu.
I clarified this with Hopper-cat so you should talk to him too if you don't believe me.
Black Kitty asked DJROC about his affiliation. His response was this:
F U H T I
S S E O M
H E H F N
U O O T O
Reading from the top right downwards, then going from right to left (ie reading a Chinese newspaper) gives IMNOTOFTHEHOUSEOFSHU but we already knew this.
Lastly, now that we know that voting will not give away your forum name, there is no advantage for ninja voting. The way Montague previously steamrolled the elections was to put our names down fast and in such a big number that the opposing faction lost spirit and morale didn't bother to put votes in. When our players did the same, it very nearly threw Sapphire the game...
Get your votes in as soon as you have a target.
My preference for killing players is in this order:
Definite enemy with a valuable role
Definite hostile player
Opponents who are acting suspiciously (Jake is behaving himself, Harlock is not)
A player who did not respond to my original PM yet
Opponents who are neutral (eg Wonder Chicken and DJROC)
Opponents who appear friendly.
The reason for this is because I used my masquerade ability to have CAB _appear_ as the Wu Bodyguard...and I think he will continue to 'appear' this way until I use my ability again or die. However, there is no way for Wu to know this, which means anybody who has claimed to be their bodyguard prior to this is in hot water, and anybody who tries to claim tonight will be too frightened to.
We will know for sure tomorrow lynch phase.
Robod-cat asked me how I knew that CAB was the bodyguard. The way he posed this makes me think that HE is actually the true Wu bodyguard and not a traitor after all. He wants to know our faction leader so I think we should not give it to him. If we eliminate the enemy lords, he will join us anyway.
Did Robod-cat give us correct information about Harlock or did he sell us a bus? If Skulkraken takes a hit or Harlock comes up to be the paranoid, then we kill Robod-cat. Fast.
If I die tonight (and I should), somebody needs to stay in contact with Robod-cat - that person is Squid, who already has contact. To verify Robod-cat, ask for his role name so that our townies can do a role check on him.
I have been talking with Black Kitty and she claims that she knows the Wei traitor. This makes me believe...there is actually a Shu traitor too. And we should subsequently stop adding people to this blog even if they are verified. The more we add, the greater chance we accidentally pick up the traitor. It may already be too late.
If you are the traitor and are reading this, don't worry. Our plan is to wipe out the enemy faction leaders. Once we identify the enemy faction leader, you 'betray' to that house...just before we hit the leader and kill them. You will then be able to, along with the rest of that house, rejoin Shu.
I clarified this with Hopper-cat so you should talk to him too if you don't believe me.
Black Kitty asked DJROC about his affiliation. His response was this:
F U H T I
S S E O M
H E H F N
U O O T O
Reading from the top right downwards, then going from right to left (ie reading a Chinese newspaper) gives IMNOTOFTHEHOUSEOFSHU but we already knew this.
Lastly, now that we know that voting will not give away your forum name, there is no advantage for ninja voting. The way Montague previously steamrolled the elections was to put our names down fast and in such a big number that the opposing faction lost spirit and morale didn't bother to put votes in. When our players did the same, it very nearly threw Sapphire the game...
Get your votes in as soon as you have a target.
My preference for killing players is in this order:
Definite enemy with a valuable role
Definite hostile player
Opponents who are acting suspiciously (Jake is behaving himself, Harlock is not)
A player who did not respond to my original PM yet
Opponents who are neutral (eg Wonder Chicken and DJROC)
Opponents who appear friendly.
Saturday, August 16, 2008
Jake~~
Jake has contacted me and been more specific.
He is the same as me but he does not want to be the Emperor either.
He is going to try to infiltrate Wei and Wu to find us the faction leaders.
He wants us to kill Wei leader so he can join our faction.
This sounds rather good to me. He's also been voting for CAB.
Let's take care of him :)
He is the same as me but he does not want to be the Emperor either.
He is going to try to infiltrate Wei and Wu to find us the faction leaders.
He wants us to kill Wei leader so he can join our faction.
This sounds rather good to me. He's also been voting for CAB.
Let's take care of him :)
Victory to the Shu~!
My fellow Shu! I wish to take this opportunity to thank everyone for coming together to bring about the downfall of CAB. All have worked diligently for well-being of our faction; however, I have to give Sky props. Had he not so willingly hopped on the proverbial hand grenade, and been such a wonderful networker, I'm sure we wouldn't have half of what we have built. Should he fall during the night, a monument will be built in his honor for the great service he has done in the name of his faction.
Let us see what the outcome of the vote is, then, we shall plan our next move.
All Hail Shu!
Let us see what the outcome of the vote is, then, we shall plan our next move.
All Hail Shu!
Verified
Madogu is the Widow and will join with us once he has exhausted all three detective checks. To do this he will 'marry' Squidworth and become an additional Shu medic.
Madogu family-checked Sapphire. She is Shu.
Shadowblade's clue matches what happened with the successors and my actions (THG referred to me as a plot hole) so I trust him to be Shu.
Squidworth is the lord and was verified by Sapphire.
Kemindful is Wei Yan, a Shu warrior, so I added him too.
I hope I didn't stuff up too much.
Currently Kemi and Shadowblade have admin authority. After I am dead I cannot affect this blog, so it will be up to you to add and authorise other players to share intel here.
Madogu family-checked Sapphire. She is Shu.
Shadowblade's clue matches what happened with the successors and my actions (THG referred to me as a plot hole) so I trust him to be Shu.
Squidworth is the lord and was verified by Sapphire.
Kemindful is Wei Yan, a Shu warrior, so I added him too.
I hope I didn't stuff up too much.
Currently Kemi and Shadowblade have admin authority. After I am dead I cannot affect this blog, so it will be up to you to add and authorise other players to share intel here.
Updates
Kemindul (no f~!) voted for TheThirdRider, in the update, he appears as Wei Yan. Prior to this he informed me that he was a Shu Lieutenant. Wei Yan historically is a Shu general, this appears to substantiate his claim.
I'm adding him to the blog.
I also am feeling fairly safe about adding Sapphire and Shadowblade Edge but let's play it cautious for now.
The basic mission of getting the information to Shu has been done. No need to be greedy about it.
I'm adding him to the blog.
I also am feeling fairly safe about adding Sapphire and Shadowblade Edge but let's play it cautious for now.
The basic mission of getting the information to Shu has been done. No need to be greedy about it.
Shadowblade, Win-commander
From Shadowblade Edge:
"I'm the General, and here's a General Clue as proof."
'The three-minute long successor (shorest known in Chinese history) has found the Shu lord while a plot hole seeks his doom.'
This refers EXACTLY to my actions and who Squidworth says he is. It still doesn't verify Sapphire-explicitly, but when we get the results back from the Widow, we will know for sure.
Welcome to the blog, Squidworth and Shadowblade.
I will hand control of the blog to Squiddy so that you can add people at your discretion.
"I'm the General, and here's a General Clue as proof."
'The three-minute long successor (shorest known in Chinese history) has found the Shu lord while a plot hole seeks his doom.'
This refers EXACTLY to my actions and who Squidworth says he is. It still doesn't verify Sapphire-explicitly, but when we get the results back from the Widow, we will know for sure.
Welcome to the blog, Squidworth and Shadowblade.
I will hand control of the blog to Squiddy so that you can add people at your discretion.
Visitors at the greenbeseenblog
I've installed a stat counter on the let greenbeseen blog to keep a track of who is visiting. If I start seeing a whole bunch of extra unique ISP's on my list, I will know it has already been compromised.
Adelaide, South Australia
New Carslile, Ohio, USA
Addison, Illinois, USA
Jessup, Maryland, USA
Rochester, Minnesota, USA
Washington, District of Columbia, USA
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Edinburgh, Endinburg, United Kingdom
Addison, Illinois, USA
Sacremento, California, USA
Tucson, Arizona, USA
Barrigada, Guam
12 unique isps
This is consistent with 11 claimants plus myself.
The Toronto, Canada link is probably Black Kitty. The stat tracker says the Canadian visitor accessed it via a private message, and if it is Black Kitty I need to know who sent it to her.
However I know there is at least one other Canadian in MegaTokyo forums, and I am hoping BK can help me track them down.
Adelaide, South Australia
New Carslile, Ohio, USA
Addison, Illinois, USA
Jessup, Maryland, USA
Rochester, Minnesota, USA
Washington, District of Columbia, USA
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Edinburgh, Endinburg, United Kingdom
Addison, Illinois, USA
Sacremento, California, USA
Tucson, Arizona, USA
Barrigada, Guam
12 unique isps
This is consistent with 11 claimants plus myself.
The Toronto, Canada link is probably Black Kitty. The stat tracker says the Canadian visitor accessed it via a private message, and if it is Black Kitty I need to know who sent it to her.
However I know there is at least one other Canadian in MegaTokyo forums, and I am hoping BK can help me track them down.
Friday, August 15, 2008
Let green be seen
http://letgreenbeseen.blogspot.com/
This was made to allow us to find the Shu townies.
Additional responses:
1. Sagi - No response.
2. Sky_Paladin - Shu traitor.
3. Kemindul - Shu (Liuetenant).
4. SpadaDellaSelva - Cousin.
5. Sapphire - Shu Detective.
6. DNA.Styx - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified).
7. major_pain - Claims Veteran (unverified)
8. thethirdrider - Unknown, friendly response, probably not Shu
9. Gasp! Its Jake - Wei, friendly response.
10. Eyolo - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified), possibly Diao Chan
11. Black Kitty - LU BU, unverified, but I trust her completely.
--DO NOT SPREAD THIS OUT. She will work with us provided we don't blow her cover. The best response to any question is "No, we have not been in contact with Black Kitty at all, do you know something about her?"
She has infinite night lives meaning she can only be killed by lynch. That makes her Shu. Let's keep her nice and safe.
12. Aarin - Claims Shu, suspiciously Wu. Verify ASAP.
13. Skulkraken - Shu (unverified) head bodyguard.
14. Shadowblade Edge - Shu (General).
15. 1337guard - Did not respond.
16. BringerofDoom - Wu Traitor. Allegedly can join Shu if we give him our lord name.
17. Gabriel - Did not respond.
18. NeoNostalgia - Did not respond.
19. bscar - Wei.
20. Vampirate - Did not respond.
21. Madogu Abuser - Widow (unverified). Counts as detective until joining a faction, then becomes medic.
22. Umino - Did not respond.
23. uberlegen - Emperor.
24. SpiritClaw16 - Did not respond.
25. TracerBullet - Did not respond.
26. Malice-Sama - Eunuch.
27. TheWinkel - Wei Bodyguard.
28. Midnyt - Shu (unverified), claims paranoid.
29. Sarck - Claims to not have a role. Possibly Shu sleeper.
30. ChaoticAtomicBomb - Hostile. Masqueraded as Wu bodyguard.
31. BBC - Did not respond.
32. harlock_jds - Neutral response.
33. Squidworth - Shu Lord.
34. TheBigN - Did not respond.
35. Kage - Did not respond. Clues in Black Kitty's role suggest Kage may be Daio Chan.
36. DJROC - Not Shu, but friendly.
37. zero_kanipan - No response.
38. Wonder Chicken - Neutral response.
39. Wave Master - No response.
40. gunsguru - Claims to be Shu Medic.
41. eladnarra - No response.
42. Marrowmeld - claims Shu.
Shu claimants:
Sky (traitor)
Kemindul (Lieutenant)
Sapphire (Strategist)
Aarin (???) - dangerous
Skulkraken (Bodyguard)
Shadowblade Edge (General)
Midnyt (Paranoid)
Squidworth (lord)
Gunsguru (Medic)
Marrowmeld (???)
Major_Pain (Veteran)
Total of 11 claimants including dodgy, dodgy Aarin, out of 11 public roles.
There are 42 players, 11 from each faction including 9 Unaffiliated.
I am not listed under Shu unless I am the sleeper.
Subsequently we can expect at least one more Shu to claimant.
MISSING:
1 of 1 Sleeper
2 of 2 Townies
I'm hoping that we will soon have names to place against these.
This was made to allow us to find the Shu townies.
Additional responses:
1. Sagi - No response.
2. Sky_Paladin - Shu traitor.
3. Kemindul - Shu (Liuetenant).
4. SpadaDellaSelva - Cousin.
5. Sapphire - Shu Detective.
6. DNA.Styx - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified).
7. major_pain - Claims Veteran (unverified)
8. thethirdrider - Unknown, friendly response, probably not Shu
9. Gasp! Its Jake - Wei, friendly response.
10. Eyolo - Friendly unaffiliated (unverified), possibly Diao Chan
11. Black Kitty - LU BU, unverified, but I trust her completely.
--DO NOT SPREAD THIS OUT. She will work with us provided we don't blow her cover. The best response to any question is "No, we have not been in contact with Black Kitty at all, do you know something about her?"
She has infinite night lives meaning she can only be killed by lynch. That makes her Shu. Let's keep her nice and safe.
12. Aarin - Claims Shu, suspiciously Wu. Verify ASAP.
13. Skulkraken - Shu (unverified) head bodyguard.
14. Shadowblade Edge - Shu (General).
15. 1337guard - Did not respond.
16. BringerofDoom - Wu Traitor. Allegedly can join Shu if we give him our lord name.
17. Gabriel - Did not respond.
18. NeoNostalgia - Did not respond.
19. bscar - Wei.
20. Vampirate - Did not respond.
21. Madogu Abuser - Widow (unverified). Counts as detective until joining a faction, then becomes medic.
22. Umino - Did not respond.
23. uberlegen - Emperor.
24. SpiritClaw16 - Did not respond.
25. TracerBullet - Did not respond.
26. Malice-Sama - Eunuch.
27. TheWinkel - Wei Bodyguard.
28. Midnyt - Shu (unverified), claims paranoid.
29. Sarck - Claims to not have a role. Possibly Shu sleeper.
30. ChaoticAtomicBomb - Hostile. Masqueraded as Wu bodyguard.
31. BBC - Did not respond.
32. harlock_jds - Neutral response.
33. Squidworth - Shu Lord.
34. TheBigN - Did not respond.
35. Kage - Did not respond. Clues in Black Kitty's role suggest Kage may be Daio Chan.
36. DJROC - Not Shu, but friendly.
37. zero_kanipan - No response.
38. Wonder Chicken - Neutral response.
39. Wave Master - No response.
40. gunsguru - Claims to be Shu Medic.
41. eladnarra - No response.
42. Marrowmeld - claims Shu.
Shu claimants:
Sky (traitor)
Kemindul (Lieutenant)
Sapphire (Strategist)
Aarin (???) - dangerous
Skulkraken (Bodyguard)
Shadowblade Edge (General)
Midnyt (Paranoid)
Squidworth (lord)
Gunsguru (Medic)
Marrowmeld (???)
Major_Pain (Veteran)
Total of 11 claimants including dodgy, dodgy Aarin, out of 11 public roles.
There are 42 players, 11 from each faction including 9 Unaffiliated.
I am not listed under Shu unless I am the sleeper.
Subsequently we can expect at least one more Shu to claimant.
MISSING:
1 of 1 Sleeper
2 of 2 Townies
I'm hoping that we will soon have names to place against these.
Letter to Squid
Aarin posted a long one in the thread essentially calling for my immediate death. Here it is:
[quote]
Your e-mail really forced my hand here, Sky, and I expected some double-play involved in the rash strategy.
But that's ok.
Received as a 'with me or against me' ultimatum to THE-ENTIRE-FUCKING-GAME, I could simply stand aghast at the responses you were inviting.
So where silence = not green
and
"Hay, I'm green" = green...
...
Are you fucking kidding me?
Why in God's name would any semi-intelligent player align themselves in such an obvious clusterfuck, abandoning good sense under the pretense of 'these are the people I can 100% trust because they say so.'
This is a Zaxser-esque screw-up that has totally shot Shu in both legs, and the feet.
Unless that's what you were aiming for. In which case, well done.
Now the list of people who revealed themselves are a pure mix of liars, idiots, and hopeful-loyalists; you're pretty much at square one since I'm sure there's plenty of Shu that didn't take the bait, and any reaction after is just as suspect as firing an immediate "Of course I'm Shu."
If anything it solidifies the opponents, since they'll be able the fuck Shu in the ass based on subsequent relief-reveals and voting habits among people who've networked via this opening.
While CAB and yourself are obvious Day 1 candidates for the town/eunuch, what you've gained is the absolute lack of trust within the 'claimed' Shu faction.
---------------
I'm in one of four factions, likely one of the others, likely yours. I'm sure as hell not getting intimately involved beyond this post. That's the problem with the silence = death mentality, especially when it's open-ended.
[/quote]
I had the following conversation with him immediately afterwards:
[21:05] Sky_Paladin> For the record, I have a list of names who were gracious enough to tell me they were not Shu. Some even revealed their actual house to me.
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> So, you are in house Wu?
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> Thanks for the heads up~
[21:06] Aarin> crazy strategy man :P
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> It was definately not my preferred course of action >.>
[21:07] Sky_Paladin> My blog starts with "I am going to play a quiet game and not do anything for the first 48 hours." Then I recieved my role. Sigh.
[21:07] Aarin> I'm not getting involved though I'd love to proclaim my Shu allegience, the ambiguity is my protection at this point
[21:07] Aarin> I simply can't risk day 1 faction-reveal
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> Hmm
[21:08] Aarin> even if it's friendly/honest
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> Well we are offering you up as the day 1 instalynch so.
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> If you are Shu it'd be a good time to do something positive.
[21:09] Aarin> oh what grounds? speaking up for my factions health and getting some distance before you guys go capulet?
[21:09] Aarin> you're already a turncoat distaster
[21:09] Sky_Paladin> Because I recieved word five minutes after I sent you the pm that you were not going to respond.
[21:10] Aarin> and that's what I said in the thread.
[21:10] Aarin> I'm still not responding
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> What I was told suggested you were not Shu, so.
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> That is why we offered you up.
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> You're behaviour suggests you are Wu, so.
[21:11] Aarin> bad move ^.^
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> It can happen.
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> If you believe I am Shu, a good idea would be to work with me.
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> A good start would be by voting for CAB.
[21:12] Aarin> I believe you're shu fine, personally
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> But since CAB appears to be the Wu Bodyguard, and I think you are Wu, I don't think you would do that.
[21:12] Aarin> but I don't trust your network for shit
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> Oh, neither do I.
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> That's why no names have been passed around.
[21:13] Sky_Paladin> But I am simply stunned that people would respond to my mail and tell me they are not in Shu because they are (house xyz).
[21:13] Aarin> that's not very good play either :P
[21:13] Aarin> was this what you were hoping for?
[21:13] Aarin> breaking the ice?
[21:14] Aarin> It's a shit way of organizing a faction
[21:14] Aarin> so I personally feel quite troubled
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> It's ok~
[21:14] Aarin> and for good reason
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> Well this is how Suike infiltrated Capulet
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> This is how Squid lasted for so long
[21:15] Aarin> lack of patience is how groups get nuked, imo
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> (sigh, Squid >.>)
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> Time was not on my side :/
[21:15] Aarin> your role might not hit until day 8+ :P
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> I am doing what I can to prevent it.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> If you are concerned, I think the best thing to do would be to say nothing and remain silent.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Including deleting your post if necessary.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Watch and see where people vote.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Try to blend in.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> That is what I would have preferred to have done!
[21:17] Sky_Paladin> Because if you are house shu, the best thing you could do would be to either do nothing or support me. But pouring crap on me is not helping us either.
[21:17] Sky_Paladin> Because of your hostile actions towards a member of Shu, other Shu players won't trust you.
[21:20] Sky_Paladin> Anyway, if CAB didn't post, the Lord was going to post it later.
[21:20] Sky_Paladin> I won't say my action was the best one. However, it is done, you can roll with it, or be left out.
[21:21] Aarin> My role doesn't need much help :P I'm not an avid networker, and my position as everyone's friend/enemy always keeps me alive longer than me shutting up. I already said I wasn't 'continuing my attack' but considering my value, I need to be as ambiguous as possible, including to whatever you're trying to set up.
[21:21] Sky_Paladin> At the moment you are being instalynched at the end of day 1, so....
[21:21] Aarin> As an infiltrator role, you're not going to get much from me other than that
[21:22] Sky_Paladin> Well it's your choice bud. You know I am from Shu. If you don't want to work with me, I can't save you.
[21:22] Aarin> what do you mean by work with you?
[21:22] Aarin> I'm like totally talking~
[21:22] Sky_Paladin> Start by not attacking me in public, and then we'll talk.
[21:23] Aarin> you deserved it?
[21:23] Sky_Paladin> Those are my terms.
[21:23] Aarin> Things should /really/ be on mine
[21:23] Aarin> thus the not backing down
[21:23] Sky_Paladin> But YOU have a role that is useful to the house. I am expendable.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> So I don't have anything that you can take from me.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> OTOH, as far as we know, you are in Wu.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> At least everyone in Shu knows they can trust me.
[21:26] Sky_Paladin> Except you, apparently :3
[21:26] Aarin> I'm a player too ^.^
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> Well, there is one more thing.
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> If you trust me 100% to be Shu, there is no reason why you can't reveal your role to me, since you expect me to die today anyway.
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> If you have a kill role, I can give you a target.
[21:28] Aarin> I'm afraid of thine network, not you :P
[21:28] Sky_Paladin> Your name is already in the network as 'Wu'.
[21:28] Sky_Paladin> We need some proof that you are Shu.
[21:30] Sky_Paladin> I can't help but feel you are sharing this conversation with somebody else.
[21:30] Aarin> playing poker. I've talked to you, squid, and dna so far, all of which have approached me.
[21:32] Sky_Paladin> Well, I am not satisfied with what you've brought to the table. If you delete your post and vote for CAB, we will petition Malice to hit somebody else. But that is how it stands at the moment.
[21:34] Sky_Paladin> I am going to send this conversation to the Shu leadership group.
[21:34] Sky_Paladin> If the situation is different, you will be contacted shortly.
[21:34] Aarin> Shu leadership group. -- That's not helping me change my mind
[21:35] Aarin> Why on earth do you trust anyone?
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> Well, I don't have a good answer for that. The truth is that I don't trust everyone.
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> But everyone should be able to trust me, right?
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> I figure not everyone can be lying to me :3
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> The math wouldn't work out.
[21:39] Aarin> Except for that whole (don't tell you your role because you're going to swap sides)
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> If I played my cards right, I should be dead long before then, right?
[21:39] Aarin> As a calculated risk, you'll probably live
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> It's really embarassing for everybody if I live long enough to swap sides >.>
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> I really don't want that.
[21:41] Sky_Paladin> Guan Yu did not stay with Wei forever, but the description didn't say anything about swapping back. But as it stands I doubt I will live long enough to find out ;)
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> Anyway, let me reiterate: Please delete your post and vote for CAB. We are currently pushing for you to be instalynched. If you do these things, we will change our request.
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> If you are truly Shu, this should be no problem for you.
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> But if you are not, well...probably we will die together. I am sure it will be romantic <3~~
[21:43] Aarin> yeah, I already did that. I've VERY unhappy about the way this got put together though
[21:44] Aarin> the vote will come durning saturday.
[21:44] Sky_Paladin> And I've deleted my response post.
[21:44] Aarin> I need to Be NOT a target for the 100th time
[21:44] Sky_Paladin> OK, I will see how that flies. Of course if you see ten thousand people voting for me, you have to vote for me too.
[21:45] * Aarin rubs forehead
[21:45] Aarin> god I hate/love this game :P
[21:45] Sky_Paladin> Yes it is a mind fuck. Part of me is already thinking 'when I die I can relax o/'
[21:45] Aarin> I'll be more availible this game
[21:46] Aarin> see ya soon, one way or the other
[21:46] Sky_Paladin> RL always gets in the way of fun.
[21:46] Sky_Paladin> Indeed!
After this, Aarin edited his post.
Although I am probably going to die there is no point pouring fuel on the fire.
Regretfully I expect Aarin will know you talked to me now, since he has only talked to you and DNA prior to me.
I won't trust Aarin til I see a vote under CAB from him though. Keep an eye out. If he doesn't do it, you know he's gotta go.
Do we want to switch the instalynch from Aarin to another known hostile (eg DJROC)?
Let me know,
--Sky
[quote]
Your e-mail really forced my hand here, Sky, and I expected some double-play involved in the rash strategy.
But that's ok.
Received as a 'with me or against me' ultimatum to THE-ENTIRE-FUCKING-GAME, I could simply stand aghast at the responses you were inviting.
So where silence = not green
and
"Hay, I'm green" = green...
...
Are you fucking kidding me?
Why in God's name would any semi-intelligent player align themselves in such an obvious clusterfuck, abandoning good sense under the pretense of 'these are the people I can 100% trust because they say so.'
This is a Zaxser-esque screw-up that has totally shot Shu in both legs, and the feet.
Unless that's what you were aiming for. In which case, well done.
Now the list of people who revealed themselves are a pure mix of liars, idiots, and hopeful-loyalists; you're pretty much at square one since I'm sure there's plenty of Shu that didn't take the bait, and any reaction after is just as suspect as firing an immediate "Of course I'm Shu."
If anything it solidifies the opponents, since they'll be able the fuck Shu in the ass based on subsequent relief-reveals and voting habits among people who've networked via this opening.
While CAB and yourself are obvious Day 1 candidates for the town/eunuch, what you've gained is the absolute lack of trust within the 'claimed' Shu faction.
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I'm in one of four factions, likely one of the others, likely yours. I'm sure as hell not getting intimately involved beyond this post. That's the problem with the silence = death mentality, especially when it's open-ended.
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I had the following conversation with him immediately afterwards:
[21:05] Sky_Paladin> For the record, I have a list of names who were gracious enough to tell me they were not Shu. Some even revealed their actual house to me.
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> So, you are in house Wu?
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> Thanks for the heads up~
[21:06] Aarin> crazy strategy man :P
[21:06] Sky_Paladin> It was definately not my preferred course of action >.>
[21:07] Sky_Paladin> My blog starts with "I am going to play a quiet game and not do anything for the first 48 hours." Then I recieved my role. Sigh.
[21:07] Aarin> I'm not getting involved though I'd love to proclaim my Shu allegience, the ambiguity is my protection at this point
[21:07] Aarin> I simply can't risk day 1 faction-reveal
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> Hmm
[21:08] Aarin> even if it's friendly/honest
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> Well we are offering you up as the day 1 instalynch so.
[21:08] Sky_Paladin> If you are Shu it'd be a good time to do something positive.
[21:09] Aarin> oh what grounds? speaking up for my factions health and getting some distance before you guys go capulet?
[21:09] Aarin> you're already a turncoat distaster
[21:09] Sky_Paladin> Because I recieved word five minutes after I sent you the pm that you were not going to respond.
[21:10] Aarin> and that's what I said in the thread.
[21:10] Aarin> I'm still not responding
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> What I was told suggested you were not Shu, so.
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> That is why we offered you up.
[21:10] Sky_Paladin> You're behaviour suggests you are Wu, so.
[21:11] Aarin> bad move ^.^
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> It can happen.
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> If you believe I am Shu, a good idea would be to work with me.
[21:11] Sky_Paladin> A good start would be by voting for CAB.
[21:12] Aarin> I believe you're shu fine, personally
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> But since CAB appears to be the Wu Bodyguard, and I think you are Wu, I don't think you would do that.
[21:12] Aarin> but I don't trust your network for shit
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> Oh, neither do I.
[21:12] Sky_Paladin> That's why no names have been passed around.
[21:13] Sky_Paladin> But I am simply stunned that people would respond to my mail and tell me they are not in Shu because they are (house xyz).
[21:13] Aarin> that's not very good play either :P
[21:13] Aarin> was this what you were hoping for?
[21:13] Aarin> breaking the ice?
[21:14] Aarin> It's a shit way of organizing a faction
[21:14] Aarin> so I personally feel quite troubled
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> It's ok~
[21:14] Aarin> and for good reason
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> Well this is how Suike infiltrated Capulet
[21:14] Sky_Paladin> This is how Squid lasted for so long
[21:15] Aarin> lack of patience is how groups get nuked, imo
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> (sigh, Squid >.>)
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> Time was not on my side :/
[21:15] Aarin> your role might not hit until day 8+ :P
[21:15] Sky_Paladin> I am doing what I can to prevent it.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> If you are concerned, I think the best thing to do would be to say nothing and remain silent.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Including deleting your post if necessary.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Watch and see where people vote.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> Try to blend in.
[21:16] Sky_Paladin> That is what I would have preferred to have done!
[21:17] Sky_Paladin> Because if you are house shu, the best thing you could do would be to either do nothing or support me. But pouring crap on me is not helping us either.
[21:17] Sky_Paladin> Because of your hostile actions towards a member of Shu, other Shu players won't trust you.
[21:20] Sky_Paladin> Anyway, if CAB didn't post, the Lord was going to post it later.
[21:20] Sky_Paladin> I won't say my action was the best one. However, it is done, you can roll with it, or be left out.
[21:21] Aarin> My role doesn't need much help :P I'm not an avid networker, and my position as everyone's friend/enemy always keeps me alive longer than me shutting up. I already said I wasn't 'continuing my attack' but considering my value, I need to be as ambiguous as possible, including to whatever you're trying to set up.
[21:21] Sky_Paladin> At the moment you are being instalynched at the end of day 1, so....
[21:21] Aarin> As an infiltrator role, you're not going to get much from me other than that
[21:22] Sky_Paladin> Well it's your choice bud. You know I am from Shu. If you don't want to work with me, I can't save you.
[21:22] Aarin> what do you mean by work with you?
[21:22] Aarin> I'm like totally talking~
[21:22] Sky_Paladin> Start by not attacking me in public, and then we'll talk.
[21:23] Aarin> you deserved it?
[21:23] Sky_Paladin> Those are my terms.
[21:23] Aarin> Things should /really/ be on mine
[21:23] Aarin> thus the not backing down
[21:23] Sky_Paladin> But YOU have a role that is useful to the house. I am expendable.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> So I don't have anything that you can take from me.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> OTOH, as far as we know, you are in Wu.
[21:24] Sky_Paladin> At least everyone in Shu knows they can trust me.
[21:26] Sky_Paladin> Except you, apparently :3
[21:26] Aarin> I'm a player too ^.^
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> Well, there is one more thing.
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> If you trust me 100% to be Shu, there is no reason why you can't reveal your role to me, since you expect me to die today anyway.
[21:27] Sky_Paladin> If you have a kill role, I can give you a target.
[21:28] Aarin> I'm afraid of thine network, not you :P
[21:28] Sky_Paladin> Your name is already in the network as 'Wu'.
[21:28] Sky_Paladin> We need some proof that you are Shu.
[21:30] Sky_Paladin> I can't help but feel you are sharing this conversation with somebody else.
[21:30] Aarin> playing poker. I've talked to you, squid, and dna so far, all of which have approached me.
[21:32] Sky_Paladin> Well, I am not satisfied with what you've brought to the table. If you delete your post and vote for CAB, we will petition Malice to hit somebody else. But that is how it stands at the moment.
[21:34] Sky_Paladin> I am going to send this conversation to the Shu leadership group.
[21:34] Sky_Paladin> If the situation is different, you will be contacted shortly.
[21:34] Aarin> Shu leadership group. -- That's not helping me change my mind
[21:35] Aarin> Why on earth do you trust anyone?
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> Well, I don't have a good answer for that. The truth is that I don't trust everyone.
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> But everyone should be able to trust me, right?
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> I figure not everyone can be lying to me :3
[21:38] Sky_Paladin> The math wouldn't work out.
[21:39] Aarin> Except for that whole (don't tell you your role because you're going to swap sides)
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> If I played my cards right, I should be dead long before then, right?
[21:39] Aarin> As a calculated risk, you'll probably live
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> It's really embarassing for everybody if I live long enough to swap sides >.>
[21:39] Sky_Paladin> I really don't want that.
[21:41] Sky_Paladin> Guan Yu did not stay with Wei forever, but the description didn't say anything about swapping back. But as it stands I doubt I will live long enough to find out ;)
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> Anyway, let me reiterate: Please delete your post and vote for CAB. We are currently pushing for you to be instalynched. If you do these things, we will change our request.
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> If you are truly Shu, this should be no problem for you.
[21:42] Sky_Paladin> But if you are not, well...probably we will die together. I am sure it will be romantic <3~~
[21:43] Aarin> yeah, I already did that. I've VERY unhappy about the way this got put together though
[21:44] Aarin> the vote will come durning saturday.
[21:44] Sky_Paladin> And I've deleted my response post.
[21:44] Aarin> I need to Be NOT a target for the 100th time
[21:44] Sky_Paladin> OK, I will see how that flies. Of course if you see ten thousand people voting for me, you have to vote for me too.
[21:45] * Aarin rubs forehead
[21:45] Aarin> god I hate/love this game :P
[21:45] Sky_Paladin> Yes it is a mind fuck. Part of me is already thinking 'when I die I can relax o/'
[21:45] Aarin> I'll be more availible this game
[21:46] Aarin> see ya soon, one way or the other
[21:46] Sky_Paladin> RL always gets in the way of fun.
[21:46] Sky_Paladin> Indeed!
After this, Aarin edited his post.
Although I am probably going to die there is no point pouring fuel on the fire.
Regretfully I expect Aarin will know you talked to me now, since he has only talked to you and DNA prior to me.
I won't trust Aarin til I see a vote under CAB from him though. Keep an eye out. If he doesn't do it, you know he's gotta go.
Do we want to switch the instalynch from Aarin to another known hostile (eg DJROC)?
Let me know,
--Sky
New ability
I gained a level and learned:
"It seems you were quite busy working in the Han court all of these years. You have been blessed with a new ability~
Tailor - you can alter the paperwork surrounding one individual in any given day phase. You will have to specify the role and faction that you wish the target to have before any lynch votes come in on a day phase (earlier the better)."
I used my masquerade ability to make CAB look like the Wu Bodyguard.
"It seems you were quite busy working in the Han court all of these years. You have been blessed with a new ability~
Tailor - you can alter the paperwork surrounding one individual in any given day phase. You will have to specify the role and faction that you wish the target to have before any lynch votes come in on a day phase (earlier the better)."
I used my masquerade ability to make CAB look like the Wu Bodyguard.
Status Report
Current returns from other players (I have to empty my inbox)
Gasp! It's Jake - Wei
BringerofDoom - Shu
DJROC - NOT Shu
WonderChicken - Unspecified
Squidworth - Shu
Marrowmeld - Shu
Kemindul - Shu; requested anonymity.
Sapphire - Shu
No other responses so far.
Aarin commented on my message to Squid but did not respond -> definite enemy.
CAB revealed my message in public (he threatened to do so privately before my message) -> definite enemy.
Black_Kitty -> did not respond, was evasive, turned down offer to be introduced to Wei, probably Wu or Unaffiliated.
DNA.Styx -> approached me, claimed to be Unaffiliated. Asked not to be targetted, wanted a Shu contact. Will probably give him Squiddy near my demise.
Gasp! It's Jake - Wei
BringerofDoom - Shu
DJROC - NOT Shu
WonderChicken - Unspecified
Squidworth - Shu
Marrowmeld - Shu
Kemindul - Shu; requested anonymity.
Sapphire - Shu
No other responses so far.
Aarin commented on my message to Squid but did not respond -> definite enemy.
CAB revealed my message in public (he threatened to do so privately before my message) -> definite enemy.
Black_Kitty -> did not respond, was evasive, turned down offer to be introduced to Wei, probably Wu or Unaffiliated.
DNA.Styx -> approached me, claimed to be Unaffiliated. Asked not to be targetted, wanted a Shu contact. Will probably give him Squiddy near my demise.
Thursday, August 14, 2008
Errors
This is the message I am sending to everybody:
"I am mailing a few people to try to find where I belong.
I am in House Shu (Green). What about you?
If you are in House Shu, please let me know! I will take ominous silence as indication that you are not.
Lot's of <3's,
--Sky
PS: No, I will not tell you my role :3"
I will list here players names, their responses, and if I had any problems.
The following players did not recieve the message:
Major_Pain
Kage
I got some responses already!
Gasp! It's Jake is in house Wu (Blue).
RobodCat claims to be in House Shu.
DJROC responded with a cute "Cue ominous silence"~ >.>
"I am mailing a few people to try to find where I belong.
I am in House Shu (Green). What about you?
If you are in House Shu, please let me know! I will take ominous silence as indication that you are not.
Lot's of <3's,
--Sky
PS: No, I will not tell you my role :3"
I will list here players names, their responses, and if I had any problems.
The following players did not recieve the message:
Major_Pain
Kage
I got some responses already!
Gasp! It's Jake is in house Wu (Blue).
RobodCat claims to be in House Shu.
DJROC responded with a cute "Cue ominous silence"~ >.>
Role Assignment
I am in house Shu but I've got a role that appears largely useless, and is counterproductive at the moment.
"Relative to the throne – You are a distant relative of the Emperor. If both the Emperor and his cousin are killed, I will randomly select one of you to take the Emperor’s place. There are three of you in total. If this happens, your win condition will change to match the Emperor’s.
You otherwise have no abilities until I say you do~"
If I am promoted to Emperor, my win condition becomes the Unaffiliated must outnumber all other factions, instead of House Shu outnumbering all other factions. It also makes it harder for House Shu to win because they lose another player.
Strategically the best thing would be for the House Lord to pick me to be his/her successor so that they cannot lose a more valuable players abilities.
I'm going to mail everyone in the game and see what turns up.
"Relative to the throne – You are a distant relative of the Emperor. If both the Emperor and his cousin are killed, I will randomly select one of you to take the Emperor’s place. There are three of you in total. If this happens, your win condition will change to match the Emperor’s.
You otherwise have no abilities until I say you do~"
If I am promoted to Emperor, my win condition becomes the Unaffiliated must outnumber all other factions, instead of House Shu outnumbering all other factions. It also makes it harder for House Shu to win because they lose another player.
Strategically the best thing would be for the House Lord to pick me to be his/her successor so that they cannot lose a more valuable players abilities.
I'm going to mail everyone in the game and see what turns up.
Sunday, August 10, 2008
Game 7~
The game hasn't started yet and people are still signing up.
I don't know if I will last past day two, I'm certain a lot of people will be gunning for me.
I publically said I am not running for mayor. The reason is, the initial decription Hopper-cat gave regarding the Emperor made it seem crazy hard to win. Being a well liked, popular person such as Black Kitty would give the Emperor a chance, but somebody like me is going to get done in real fast.
I'm going to try and stay out of trouble this game.
I don't know if I will last past day two, I'm certain a lot of people will be gunning for me.
I publically said I am not running for mayor. The reason is, the initial decription Hopper-cat gave regarding the Emperor made it seem crazy hard to win. Being a well liked, popular person such as Black Kitty would give the Emperor a chance, but somebody like me is going to get done in real fast.
I'm going to try and stay out of trouble this game.
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